An afternoon discussion with my senior

Assalamulaikum all! For this post, you just read it till the end. If possible, maybe you can leave your respective responses. TQ. ;)

The conversation was took place between 11.26 am to 12.14 pm through YM. :)

mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:26:53 AM): salam
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:26:55 AM): bro
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:26:59 AM): keje ke? (working?)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:30:16 AM): brb
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:30:21 AM): k
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:35:39 AM): sorry
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:35:39 AM): discuss tadi (was discussing)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:35:39 AM): wassup
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:35:50 AM): haha
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:35:51 AM): xpe (it's okay)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:35:56 AM): saje je nk tny kaba (just drop by to say hi)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:36:22 AM): oh
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:36:22 AM): hehehe
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:36:22 AM): :)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:36:42 AM): skng keje dh ke? (you're working, right?)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:38:18 AM): sudah2 (yes)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:38:18 AM): hehe
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:41:20 AM): kat ne? (where?)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:41:26 AM): best ar dh keje (bla, bla)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:41:27 AM): hehe
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:41:40 AM): dekat jalan ampang, wisma UOA (at jalan ampang, wisma UOA)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:41:40 AM): :)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:41:59 AM): keje sbg ape? (working as?)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:42:10 AM): pegawai teknologi maklumat ek (IT officer?)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:43:19 AM): software developer
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:43:19 AM): :)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:44:09 AM): pergh (wow!)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:44:11 AM): mantapp (great!)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:44:20 AM): aku ade lagi satu sem je kat sini (I just have one more semester left here)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:44:34 AM): takde ler mantap mana (well...)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:44:36 AM): then lg 2 semester practical (then I'll go for my intern after that)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:44:44 AM): oh
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:44:44 AM): hehehe
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:44:44 AM): :)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:44:59 AM): maybe aku LI ngn mmber skali (maybe I'll go with a friend)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:45:10 AM): hehe
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:45:34 AM): LI?
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:45:45 AM): latihan industri = praktikal
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:45:46 AM): hehe
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:45:54 AM): oh
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:45:58 AM): mmber aku tu smlm dia ade ajk kat johor (yesterday my friend asked me to do intern together with him at Johor)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:46:11 AM): ergh (wow)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:46:11 AM): jauh (that's far)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:46:35 AM): kire ngn bahagian IT utk syarikat yg jage estet gitu la (we'll be with the company's IT department)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:46:37 AM): xpe (it's okay)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:46:47 AM): aku kat johor tu merata2 sedara mara (I have many relatives there at johor)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:46:48 AM): hehe
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:46:52 AM): kmpung pn dkt sane je (my village is there also)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:46:59 AM): oh
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:46:59 AM): i see i see
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:47:10 AM): makcik dia pn ade keje kat sane (her aunt worked there)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:47:22 AM): tu la igt nk try gak (that's why I think I wanted to try there)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:47:22 AM): patut boleh je (sure you can)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:47:22 AM): :)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:47:22 AM): kerja as apa eh? (work as?)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:47:42 AM): develop mcm web application gitu la (developing web application or something like that)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:47:47 AM): siapa (who)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:47:52 AM): makcik dia tu ke? (her aunt?)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:48:00 AM): hehe
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:48:07 AM): tak , ko (no, you)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:48:07 AM): :)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:48:09 AM): oo
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:49:15 AM): setakat ni aku berminat buat web application la (for now, I'm interested in developing a web application)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:49:33 AM): kenapa tak try lain? (why don't you try others?)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:50:05 AM): pasal web application, dah banyak sgt (cause it is everywhere)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:50:09 AM): software engineer pn aku try gak (I'm also trying for software engineer)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:50:23 AM): kalo network tu aku belum tahu lg (network never in my mind yet)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:50:46 AM): tp yg aku dgr network pn bnyk gak keje dia (but I heard network got the hot spot)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:50:51 AM): kat pasaran (in market)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:50:54 AM): ye ke gitu? (is it true?)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:51:29 AM): what's your opinion
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:52:35 AM): menda2 common macam software engineer/ network banyak ada (works like SE/network is everywhere)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:52:41 AM): tapi (but)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:52:53 AM): bukan utk multinational company (not for multinational company)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:53:22 AM): multinational company, ada banyak support (multimational company have many support)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:53:46 AM): ada gak pasal software engineering (there's also for SE)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:53:46 AM): but requirement tinggi (but it's requirement is high)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:53:52 AM): ini ko kena aim (you must aim this)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:53:57 AM): pasal ada future (because got future)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:54:22 AM): kalo macam software engineering yg kat local company/ small company suma (if SE in all local company or small company)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:54:34 AM): kerja 1-2 years ok la (work for 1-2 years, that's okay)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:54:41 AM): stakat nak dapat working experience (for the sake of work experience)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:55:13 AM): kira apa2 pun kerja ko nak cari, cari yg boleh guarantee masa depan ko cerah (means any work that you seek, make sure it can guarantee your future)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:55:13 AM): kira progressive (or progressive)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:55:19 AM): unless
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:55:33 AM): kalo ko ntah sesat mana lubang cacing ko dapat US company (you work with US company)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:55:39 AM): ituh different story (that's the different story)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:55:55 AM): atau india (or india)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:56:01 AM): or europe
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:56:07 AM): malaysia, tak demand sgt development (malaysia not very demanding on development)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:56:14 AM): banyak business oriented (but business orinted)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:56:38 AM): sebab tuh multinational company ada banyak support, company banyak business oriented (that's why multinational company have many support, many are business oriented)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:57:06 AM): gitu rupenye (I see, I see)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:57:22 AM): :)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:57:22 AM): brb
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:57:24 AM): aku pn plan xmau keje ngn org lame2 (I also planning not to work with people for a long time)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:58:28 AM): aku pn nk try bisnes mungkin dalam advertising (I wanted to try doing bussiness maybe in advertising)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:58:44 AM): tp ngn bantuan adik aku la sbb dia ade basic bab2 tu (but with my sister because she have the basics)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:58:53 AM): aku kalo part management tu boleh la (I'll took the management part)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 11:59:12 AM): tu idea aku utk bisnes la (that was my idea)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:59:35 AM): ok
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:59:44 AM): ni verdict aku (this is my verdict)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 11:59:45 AM): advertising, dah banyak (advertising, there's a lot)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:00:05 PM): especially photography
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:00:12 PM): terlampau banyak (too many)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:00:19 PM): aku tau (I know)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:00:27 PM): sbb mmber aku yg grad pn ade wat (because I have a member who do that)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:00:31 PM): kat klang (at Klang)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:00:45 PM): oh
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:00:45 PM): sebab tuh aku suggest (I suggest)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:00:59 PM): kalo multinational company ada software engineering -> pergi amik (if you have the chance for software engineer post at multinational company, grab it)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:01:05 PM): level diorang is different (their level is different)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:01:10 PM): yup (agreed)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:01:17 PM): kira scale dia lebih kepada distributed computing (means they scaled more to distributed computing)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:02:35 PM): ko ade try2 masuk bidang usahawan? (haven't you try entrepreneurship?)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:02:56 PM): besides software engineer tu la (besides SE)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:03:03 PM): nah (nope)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:03:03 PM): will never
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:03:15 PM): hehe
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:03:22 PM): too much risk
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:03:26 PM): yup (agreed)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:03:28 PM): btol tu
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:03:56 PM): aku pn baru nk berjinak2 (I'm now trying to go into that)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:04:09 PM): cuti ni aku join kursus asas keusahawanan (I' going for a basic workshop for entrepreneurship this holiday)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:04:28 PM): organized by my uni
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:05:08 PM): oh
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:05:21 PM): kalo ko still insist nak masuk line development (if you're still insist to go on in development)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:05:33 PM): make sure ko kena tau majority open source language (make sure you know more about open source language)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:05:54 PM): open souce language tu means? (means?)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:06:10 PM): macam (it's like)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:06:16 PM): ruby
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:06:16 PM): php
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:06:16 PM): perl
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:06:31 PM): python
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:06:31 PM): linux scripting
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:06:33 PM): ooo
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:06:42 PM): php tau la aku (i knew php)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:06:48 PM): linux pn ade la sikit (and a bit of linux)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:07:01 PM): oh
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:07:01 PM): kasi up linux tuh (add more on your linux)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:07:17 PM): kn bagus kalo malaysia guna open source (it will be good if malaysia apply open source)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:07:18 PM): hehe
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:07:28 PM): pasal in few years time, majority akan pakai open source (cause in few years time, majority will use open source)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:07:28 PM): eh
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:07:28 PM): ada (got already)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:07:28 PM): banyak (much of it)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:07:43 PM): but later nanti baru nampak the differences (but later we will see the differences)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:07:50 PM): sbb aku bc smlm mlm kat utusan (I've just read through the news yesterday)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:07:58 PM): pasal keuntungan pkai open source (about the benefit using OSS)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:08:02 PM): mmg jimat la (really worth it)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:08:15 PM): memang pun (agreed)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:08:15 PM): :)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:08:28 PM): senior aku ade citer lu (my senior told me once)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:08:42 PM): universiti aku ni asalnye dulu pkai open source (our university was using OSS back then)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:08:46 PM): tp pastu tukar (but nowadays not anymore)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:08:51 PM): xtahu la nape (don't know why)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:09:06 PM): aku skang apply IBM/ HP/ Securities Commissions (I'm now applying IBM/HP/Security Commissions)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:09:06 PM): oh
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:09:20 PM): biasa la tuh (well...)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:09:20 PM): :)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:09:24 PM): hehe
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:09:31 PM): microsoft nak dominate malaysian market (microsoft wanted to dominate malaysia market)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:09:52 PM): last2 pirated gak blambak kat pasar (at last I saw many pirated one at the market)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:09:53 PM): hehe
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:10:10 PM): but still
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:10:24 PM): diorang dominate (they dominate it)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:10:24 PM): and mindset orang skang -> microsoft (and nowadays people's mindset is microsoft)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:10:30 PM): bila bawak ke working life (when they bring to working life)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:10:39 PM): kena pakai ori (must use original one)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:10:44 PM): so untung juga (so, they still get the profit)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:11:19 PM): pirate2 ni, microsoft apa kisah sgt (pirated one, they don't even bother)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:12:04 PM): bill gates dh kaye sgt kot (bill gates already rich)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:12:07 PM): tu yg xkesah tu (maybe that's why)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:12:08 PM): hehe
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:12:10 PM): erm
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:12:12 PM): eh
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:12:13 PM): ok la (okay)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:12:24 PM): aku nk wat revision sket (I need to do my revision first)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:12:27 PM): sok ade paper (tomorrow I have paper)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:12:34 PM): tgh minggu final exam ni sbnrnye (actually, I'm in a middle of final exam week)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:12:36 PM): ngeh3
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:12:45 PM): alright
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:12:45 PM): sila2 (you may)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:12:45 PM): :)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:12:52 PM): biasa la tuh (well)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:12:52 PM): thanks for the perkogsian maklumat (thaks for the knowledge sharing)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:12:53 PM): haha
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:13:06 PM): ari exam -> mana study (exam day, no study)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:13:13 PM): jumpe nnt bble kat SJ (see you back in SJ)
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:13:21 PM): aku balik dalam 2 minggu lg la gitu (I'll be back in two weeks time)
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:13:21 PM): alright2
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:13:27 PM): k
mohd jamil (11/6/2008 12:13:28 PM): salam
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:13:55 PM): salam
zaidaiman (11/6/2008 12:13:55 PM): :)

...and that's the end of it. ;) Peace!